Relationship & Pregnancy Overhaul Collection, Mod 4
Description of Paternity testing – related features
———————– How the system works ———————–
About EP21’s “Secret Child” feature and RPO M4
To solve these matters of integration between EP 21 “secret Child” system and RPO’s paternity features, my first approach was the kind of bend my system to the EA one, but that had several problems:
- not everyone has EP21
- EP21’s secret child system is more limited in context and options than RPO M4 (EA’s system triggers only in some of the contexts where RPO M4’s does)
Instead, I ended up marrying the systems differently: giving priority to RPO M4, while still triggering all the EP21 EA stuff in the contexts in which it would.
- EP 21’s secret gets revealed if doing a paternity test with a significant other who isn’t the biological parent, or admitting truth to them; in either case, scandal ensues
- EP21’s the at-birth drop-down to ‘choose who to claim as father’ is blocked off – instead, a sim must discover who is the other parent of their child via testing for it (how would they magically know?!).
The official partner is always automatically assumed / declared the parent if not knowing, and when knowing, it still shows them as the parent UNTIL or UNLESS a. the sim gets a paternity test or b. the truth is admitted to them. In the tree, you will see the ‘secret child’ info as when unmodded. - Similarly, the Sim doesn’t get the “Becca is expecting with George! Should she let Marc know” notification right away, but only once she’s figured out who’s the father by doing the tests (because, once again, how would she magically know).
- As before with RPO M4, if a significant other was not woohoo’d with anytime recent, they’ll know immediately that a child isn’t theirs upon hearing about the pregnancy – and I make this also trigger the EP21 secret reveal.
PLEASE UNDERSTAND THE EP21’s SYSTEM DESIGN:
Under it, revealing the truth BEFORE birth cannot create a secret or scandal. If you want an EP21 secret and scandal, WAIT till after birth to reveal the truth.
How the System Works
Requirements for the Paternity System to Trigger
– Sims must WooHoo / try for baby after the mod is installed. Preexisting pregnancies can’t be recognized.
– Pregnancy triggered through MCCC cheats and such will not trigger it.
– If you use cheats to start a pregnancy, you must mark Sims as ‘WooHoo’d With’ if you want the paternity system to trigger normally at pregnancy discovery. Do so by clicking on another Sim and going to ‘Actions’ then ‘RPO Special Actions’.
– If you use WW actions to start a pregnancy, normally this mod is integrated with it and paternity should be automatically recognized.
If a pregnant Sim WooHoo’d with only one other recently:
- They do not doubt who the father is. Immediately upon discovering pregnancy, the real father will be marked as such.
- They can, if they want, lie to the father to tell them they’re not actually the father.
- Fathers can doubt about whom fathered the child and express those doubts. They can request a paternity test.
- If the Sim’s Official partner is not the dad and was not WooHoo’d with anytime recent, upon the pregnancy being announced, they will know they were cheated on.
If a pregnant Sim recently WooHoo’d with several who can impregnate:
They will doubt who is the father, they can’t know for sure!
– They can “Admit to Not Knowing Who is The Father”, which is also a confession to having cheated of course – if cheating applies (ie if not in a non-exclusive relationship).
– They can steal a hair to do a secret paternity test with or go to a Psychic. After that, they can lie or tell the truth to Sims they woohoo’d with recently. They can also go to paternity tests together with the suspected other parent.
What the lovers of the pregnant Sim can do, prior to knowing for sure
– Sims who can impregnate can question being the father of a love interest’s child if they WooHoo’d together soon before the pregnancy happened. This will lead the Sim questioned to immediately say they don’t know if they don’t. If they do know, it will lead them to either tell the truth or lie.
– Sims who can impregnate can also request to do a paternity test no matter what.
———————– Notes on Test Results ———————–
Notes on Test Results
Finding Out by Elimination Processes
- The game ALWAYS knows how exactly is the dad. My mod does not make it up, but grabs that info from the game. Everything else in the system is added code by me.
- If there are only 2 possible dads, and the one tested with is the real one, the other one will automatically be marked as not the father, because by this point by elimination the Sim obviously knows who it is, and can be lied to or told the truth.
- If there are only 2 possible dads, and the one tested with is not the real one, the other one will automatically be marked as the father, also as logic dictates, and can be lied to or told the truth.
- If there are 3+ possible dads and the one tested with / about is the real dad, all others will be marked as not the dad. If the one tested with is not the real dad, he’ll be marked as not the dad, but since there’s still 2+ possibilities, the Sim still doesn’t know who is the real dad.
- When a Sim figures out who fathered their child, be it by elimination or by testing with the right one, they’ll get a certificate in their inventory. It’s not doing much of anything for now, I’ll add more to it later. It’s a souvenir for now.
New Possibilities After the Test
- As mentioned previously, once a Sim know who is the father, they can say it, truth or lies.
- If the mother has already found out who is the other parent AND has told a partner either the truth or a lie, potential fathers can’t ask to go do a test but instead will be able to ask for proof of who is the father. This will tell them the truth just like doing the test would have. If the mother knows the truth but never told their partner anything, the partner can still ask for a test.
- If a Sim is told they’re the father, or have found out they are, they and the other Sim can ask each other to “marry because of having a child together”. It might be accepted or rejected. Relationship preferences impact the result.
———————– Reactions to Finding Things Out ———————–
Different relationship configurations and pregnancy wishes give different reactions.
More Info
A fling of a night will be happy to hear they’re not the dad, but a husband certainly may not.
Therefore, Moodlets from the paternity test and some other interactions (most notably, being told that they are / are not / may not be the father) depend on whether the test is positive or negative, and on whether the relationship is: Non-Exclusive Official with a partner who wants children, Non-Exclusive official with a partner who does not want children, Non-Official, or Exclusive Official.
———————– After Discovering The Truth ———————–
After Discovering the Truth
Jealousy and Cheating
With this mod, RPO M7 will also be activated if you have it.
A Sim learning they’re not the father in an official exclusive relationship will have jealousy triggered, so if you use cheating mods that base off of that such as RPO M7 and other cheating-oriented mods by other modders, then you get to ‘benefit’ from that as well.
Sims who impregnated may accept or reject being a parent to the child
They can deny being the father if told they are:
They can outright tell the other Sim that they reject the child, or accept it.
“Admit getting another Pregnant” and “Tell Sim you got their spouse pregnant”
Sims can Admit Getting Another Pregnant (if they were told or know for sure they’re the dad of an extramaritally-caused pregnancy)
Interactions relating to the children
Fathers who accept the child but aren’t the biological parent will be able to tell the child that they’re not biologically related.
———– Timeframes and System Reset ————-
Long story short: The “latest child” system is in place until the next pregnancy (age of the offspring is irrelevant). It has the most features.
The “not latest child” system is in place for prior children.
What if a pregnancy is terminated through another Mod?
If your Sim gets a termination of pregnancy from another mod and not mine, I advise doing the following right after: go the the ‘actions’ menu, then WooHoo Wellness Settings, then click ‘Remove All Paternity Testing Markers’
———– Impact on Children & Family Dynamics ————-
More things planned to be added on this, in addition to what is already described on this page.
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